Olavo tem algum artigo sobre Nietzsche?
Não me recordo de ter lido Olavo falando sobre este filósofo. Alguem teria um link?
Olavo tem algum artigo sobre Nietzsche?
Não me recordo de ter lido Olavo falando sobre este filósofo. Alguem teria um link?
Olavo e Nietzsche.
Olavo tem algum artigo sobre Nietzsche?
Não me recordo de ter lido Olavo falando sobre este filósofo. Alguem teria um link?
Eu ía postar exatamente a mesma coisa - tem muitos artigos no site do Olavo, é só escrever "nietzsche" no campo de pesquisa.
Desculpem minha lerdeza,
valeu mesmo assim.
valeu mesmo assim.
Encontrei algumas evidências daquilo que já desconfiava: existem criminosos - entre os quais o que perpetrou o massacre da Virgina Tech - que tem um perfil chamado de "criminoso existencial", onde Nietzsche tem peso considerável na construção da persona assassina. É chamada de "Síndrome de Nietzsche". Leiam isso:
" To escape the cognitive mode of experience, to transcend the accident of one's moment of being.... One mustn't underestimate the primal appeal — to lose oneself, lose it utterly. And in losing it be born to the principle of continuous life, outside the prison of mortality and time."
To achieve this, they used alcohol, drugs, and even poison. The point was "to receive the god" via purification of the self. They tried and tried, and eventually managed to achieve an ecstatic, hallucinogenic state they had apparently lost their egos. They began to run through the woods and fields, oblivious to anything. Somehow, they killed a man along the way. When they came to their senses beside the body, which was ripped apart, they realized they had done it but had no memory of how. In other words, in their reach to defy human limits and unify with a deity, they became violent. Like God, they had taken a person's life.
In many ways, that is similar to the way some killers justify their actions with Nietzsche's call to "live dangerously" and develop a will to power. To be God is to be mighty, and that's often interpreted as the ability to kill another person — as if that's the ultimate exercise of power."
completo aqui:http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous…imes/12.html
" To escape the cognitive mode of experience, to transcend the accident of one's moment of being.... One mustn't underestimate the primal appeal — to lose oneself, lose it utterly. And in losing it be born to the principle of continuous life, outside the prison of mortality and time."
To achieve this, they used alcohol, drugs, and even poison. The point was "to receive the god" via purification of the self. They tried and tried, and eventually managed to achieve an ecstatic, hallucinogenic state they had apparently lost their egos. They began to run through the woods and fields, oblivious to anything. Somehow, they killed a man along the way. When they came to their senses beside the body, which was ripped apart, they realized they had done it but had no memory of how. In other words, in their reach to defy human limits and unify with a deity, they became violent. Like God, they had taken a person's life.
In many ways, that is similar to the way some killers justify their actions with Nietzsche's call to "live dangerously" and develop a will to power. To be God is to be mighty, and that's often interpreted as the ability to kill another person — as if that's the ultimate exercise of power."
completo aqui:http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous…imes/12.html
Exatamente isso, Luis Afonso!
O trecho abaixo, que comenta o livro de Carl Goldberg "Speaking with the Devil", descreve perfeitamente o assassino da Virgínia:
" [...] a pessoa sente raiva dos outros, racionaliza e justifica suas ações, bloqueia a noção de conseqüência de seus atos e desenvolve um tipo de raciocínio no qual se convence de que é perfeito. No esquema de Goldberg, "o pensamento mágico malévolo" consta de obter poder sobre a vida criando "uma distância moral entre o perpetrador e a vítima". É uma forma de mania de grandeza na qual a pessoa acredita que os outros falharam em reconhecer suas qualidades únicas e precisam então ser forçadas a vê-las".
O trecho abaixo, que comenta o livro de Carl Goldberg "Speaking with the Devil", descreve perfeitamente o assassino da Virgínia:
" [...] a pessoa sente raiva dos outros, racionaliza e justifica suas ações, bloqueia a noção de conseqüência de seus atos e desenvolve um tipo de raciocínio no qual se convence de que é perfeito. No esquema de Goldberg, "o pensamento mágico malévolo" consta de obter poder sobre a vida criando "uma distância moral entre o perpetrador e a vítima". É uma forma de mania de grandeza na qual a pessoa acredita que os outros falharam em reconhecer suas qualidades únicas e precisam então ser forçadas a vê-las".
Nietzsche é um martelo. Serve para destruir coisas físicas, serve para destruir ídolos.
Qq religião, fio-moral, providencia sempre uma 'saída' para atos como aqule. Cabe aos pastores, médicos-da-mente, imãs, cortarem os excessos.
Qq religião, fio-moral, providencia sempre uma 'saída' para atos como aqule. Cabe aos pastores, médicos-da-mente, imãs, cortarem os excessos.
Não concordo com a análise da inspiração nietzscheana dos assassinatos.
É o mesmo que a deturpação da verdadeira mensagem de nietzsche pelos nazistas.
Assim como muitos outros crimes violentos são explicados ou mesmo "justificados" pela violência na TV, videogames, bandas de heavy-metal, pobreza, ou qualquer outra desculpa que você queira usar.
É o mesmo que a deturpação da verdadeira mensagem de nietzsche pelos nazistas.
Assim como muitos outros crimes violentos são explicados ou mesmo "justificados" pela violência na TV, videogames, bandas de heavy-metal, pobreza, ou qualquer outra desculpa que você queira usar.
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http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous…rimes/6.html
"But it wasn't just Nietzsche's celebration of physical instinct and aggression that made him famous. He also proclaimed the death of God via the visible signs of a decline in the force of religion. That was a basis for his notion that, without a higher power in place, human beings must create meaning for themselves, and only the most morally courageous and clear-sighted could actually devise a code of morality. Everyone else was part of the herd — followers who let others think for them.
In 1886, Nietzsche published Beyond Good and Evil, in which he spelled out how absolute morality is illusory and also postulated that crime might be regarded as an invigorating condition to make the human species stronger. Exploitation within society is normal, because "life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of what is alien and weaker." In other words, life is a "will to power," his title for a more forceful book in which he described the human ideal as an intense Dionysian affirmation of the existence as it truly is, including violence
Morality, Nietzsche said, was a system of judgments that coincided with the conditions of the moralist's life. There was a master morality and a slave morality.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous…rimes/6.html
"But it wasn't just Nietzsche's celebration of physical instinct and aggression that made him famous. He also proclaimed the death of God via the visible signs of a decline in the force of religion. That was a basis for his notion that, without a higher power in place, human beings must create meaning for themselves, and only the most morally courageous and clear-sighted could actually devise a code of morality. Everyone else was part of the herd — followers who let others think for them.
In 1886, Nietzsche published Beyond Good and Evil, in which he spelled out how absolute morality is illusory and also postulated that crime might be regarded as an invigorating condition to make the human species stronger. Exploitation within society is normal, because "life itself is essentially appropriation, injury, overpowering of what is alien and weaker." In other words, life is a "will to power," his title for a more forceful book in which he described the human ideal as an intense Dionysian affirmation of the existence as it truly is, including violence
Morality, Nietzsche said, was a system of judgments that coincided with the conditions of the moralist's life. There was a master morality and a slave morality.
(...) "Hitler often visited the Nietzsche museum in Weimar and published his veneration for the philosopher by posing for photographs of himself staring in rapture at the bust of the great man."
Thus, regardless of what he hoped for, Nietzsche offered grounds for the reprehensible Nazi ideology of a superior race exercising its will to power as it saw fit. Hitler was living out what Nietzsche had envisioned, trying to prove himself to be the Übermensch and the precursor of the Master race. He despised weakness as much as Nietzsche did and wanted to "transvalue" the current social values into something that supported the aggressive instinct. He wanted to become, as Nietzsche called it, a "lord of the earth."
Like some killers today, Hitler appropriated Nietzsche's ideas and made them his own. It may not have been Nietzsche's intent to have his themes taken out of context, but few thinkers have the luxury of controlling what others do with their work. It's unlikely he would have viewed a petty, dysfunctional and tyrannical little man like Hitler as the Übermensch that would usher in a new age of self-realization and cultural achievement. Yet Hitler was indeed a "monster filled with joy" with the "conscience of a beast of prey," as Nietzsche described. Vague phrasing provided a certain flexibility of interpretation.
Thus, regardless of what he hoped for, Nietzsche offered grounds for the reprehensible Nazi ideology of a superior race exercising its will to power as it saw fit. Hitler was living out what Nietzsche had envisioned, trying to prove himself to be the Übermensch and the precursor of the Master race. He despised weakness as much as Nietzsche did and wanted to "transvalue" the current social values into something that supported the aggressive instinct. He wanted to become, as Nietzsche called it, a "lord of the earth."
Like some killers today, Hitler appropriated Nietzsche's ideas and made them his own. It may not have been Nietzsche's intent to have his themes taken out of context, but few thinkers have the luxury of controlling what others do with their work. It's unlikely he would have viewed a petty, dysfunctional and tyrannical little man like Hitler as the Übermensch that would usher in a new age of self-realization and cultural achievement. Yet Hitler was indeed a "monster filled with joy" with the "conscience of a beast of prey," as Nietzsche described. Vague phrasing provided a certain flexibility of interpretation.
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"The attorneys defending a criminal are rarely artists enough to turn the beautiful ghastliness of his deed to his advantage."
Friedrich Nietzsche
outra:
"The criminal is quite frequently not equal to his deed: he belittles and slanders it"
Friedrich Nietzsche
(precisa traduzir?)
"The attorneys defending a criminal are rarely artists enough to turn the beautiful ghastliness of his deed to his advantage."
Friedrich Nietzsche
outra:
"The criminal is quite frequently not equal to his deed: he belittles and slanders it"
Friedrich Nietzsche
(precisa traduzir?)
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"There are no moral phenomena at all, but only a moral interpretation of phenomena."
Nietzsche
"There are no moral phenomena at all, but only a moral interpretation of phenomena."
Nietzsche
qeum é o 'dele'?
Nietzche deve ser um dos maiores motivos de discordancia entre o Olavo e o Meira Penna...